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Jan 24, 2009, 09:03 PM // 21:03
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Wales
Guild: No longer actively playing.
Profession: N/
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A Tribute Guide to Moloch's MoP Nuker Build.
This is properly one of the highest single player Dps in the game. Credit goes to Moloch Vein. I've Talked to him about this little Mini-Guide for awhile, He told me to post it. So be Gentle.
I adore this build it's teh sex against mobs. This should be what a necro who is bored of running [Spiteful Spirit] should run. This template is what you Will need for the Highest amount of Damage, so don't change anything apart from the free skill slots (Which i'll be providing recommendations on what to pick) [Build=Moloch Vein's Mark of Pain Nuker;OAdTY0D7RySYXcBKVMRAAAAAAAA] NOTE: This build causes such high DPS things will scatter, so if your playing with another player asking them to Bring ["You move like a dwarf"] is advised General usage: You should Call all targets you cast [Mark of pain] on and follow this chain from skill slots one to four. (Five if they are blocking) Equipment: +30hp or 20% Spear with a Silencing spear head and +5e inscription. Curses Focus with +30hp and +1/20% inscription. The Spear is generally used for Activating [Mark of Pain] Or/and [Barbs] Armour: FoW Armour (Joke). Curses Headpiece with Sup curse rune (Doesn't have to be but more damage = more dead enemies). You can go High Hp or High Energy this build doesn't need that much energy to run. Heroes(if applical & can afford): Most people Run Sab-way, so i suggest giving your necros spears and Soul reaping or Which ever Foci you prefer. If you are running otherwise such as a Dervish, warrior, assassin and Ranger hero, Make sure they don't have elemental damage as it won't activate [Mark of pain] Or/And [Barbs] The five skills on the main Bar are essential for MoP nuker to work well. [Mark of pain]-is your main damage source and should be protected from Hex Removal. [Ebon vanguard assassin support]-This little guy helps with your Damage and his first skill in his chain is [Iron Palm] and the rest of his chain is Unblockable [Assassin's Promise]-This skill is used to recharge all other skills so you can spam again and again and again..... [By Ural's Hammer]-25% more damage from your [Mark of pain] is too good to give up. [Rigor mortis]-Anti-block skill, Very good in HM and EotN areas where Stances are used all the time. You generally need a cover hex for this build. Don't want any nasty hex removal skills to rid you of [Assassin's promise] Or [Mark of Pain] Cover Hexes you can use: [Reckless haste]-A very nice cover hex. [Shadow of fear]-DAS is a nice thing to have in HM. [Meekness]-For wider DAS range. [Suffering]-I Don't advise this but it's still good on degen. [Ulcerous Lungs]-Another nice degen skill, but useless unless your running heavy bleeding or up against Alot of monsters with shouts (Which is Unlikely). Now you have Two more slot to use up i advise picking a PvE skill, More pve skills the better. PvE skills You could use: [Necrosis]-Has always been the Favourite skill for any necromancer, it's pure Armor ignoring spammage. [Mindbender]-This is one of my personal favourite skills, I advise running this if you are going to use barbs in your 3rd slot. [Pain Inverter]-Like a Condom cheap and disposable, Reminds me of [Spoil Victor] But alot better. [Technobabble]-This is a nice skill if your using a Silencing Spear Head, Also acts as a cheap AoE interrupt. Note: If you are not going to bring this skill i highly suggest bringing a paragon hero with [spear swipe] [Great Dwarf Armor]-For people who like to play Defensive...very defensive. [Great Dwarf Weapon]-This is the most Imba Weapon spell in the game and provides a very good Knockdown on your [mark of Pain]'d target. [Ebon Battle Standard of Honor]-This is a good skill for a bit more damage from your Zero speced Spear and your allies and minions to do alot more damage. [Ebon Vanguard Sniper Support]-Does exactly what is says on the tin! ["Finish Him!"]-Very good for quick AP kill spamming. ["You Move Like a Dwarf!"]-This is also a very nice knock-down for The [mark of Pain]'d target. Also Provides a condition if your running Discord-way. For your last slot it can be somewhat of a hard choice as there aren't that many to pick from that would really benifit you. Last Slot Suggestions: [Barbs]-For single target damage with a pinch of salt. [Enfeebling Blood]-This is Sex for Hard mode. [Price of Failure]-Another Single target damage, Combined with [Reckless haste] is a deadly combo. [Rend Enchantments]-Standard Enchantment Removal. [Rip Enchantment]-Okay Enchantment Removal, but if you want Uber enchantment removal [Rend enchantments] is better. [Weaken Armor]-Good in Melee heavy areas. [enduring Toxin]-This is something i would pick if i had none of the other skills, in short kinda sucks for PvE Optimal Heroes. These are list of hero builds which are very effective For a MoP nuker. Any of the skills in these builds can be replaced with whatever you want. Warrior [pve Hybrid Crip Slash;OQASEZKPHWAj2fqxU4rG2rC] This hero build takes the factor of your MoP target running away when your inflicting heavy damage with [Mark of pain] and disables it from running and uses [Sun and moon slash] to active MoP Twice, Bit of a downer for the 8 Adrenaline needed. Equipment and runes. Weapon and Shield/off-hand: Any Req between 9-13. Crippling Sword of Fortitude with a 15^50 Inscription is best, but not REQUIRED Any Req between 9-13. Strength Shield of Fortitude or Endurance with a "Run For Your Life!" or "Sheltered by Faith" inscription. Runes & Insignias: +1+1 Swordsmanship & +1 Strength and rest of the slots should be Health. Same goes for insignias, all Health. [pve Trip Chop;OQASEZJPgvoiTZvyU4rG2rC] This hero build takes the same factor as the one above, but an interrupt is included. Equipment and runes. Weapon and Shield/off-hand: Any Req between 9-13. Cruel Axe of Fortitude with a 15^50 Inscription is best, but not REQUIRED Any Req between 9-13. Strength Shield of Fortitude or Endurance with a "Run For Your Life!" or "Sheltered by Faith" inscription. Runes & Insignias: +1+1 Axe Mastery & +1 Strength and rest of the slots should be Health. Same goes for insignias, all Health. [pve War-a-gon (hero);OQkiExlM1uBkZGSkNktgdVIvB] This hero build takes into account of how quick targets will be dying and sometimes melee will not make it there so with a Spear it can be pretty much easy sailing for the Hero. Downfall about this build is the hero will have 25 seconds of no IAS which is what the MoP heroes are all about. Should consider running with a paragon. Equipment and runes. Weapon and Shield/off-hand: Any Req between 9-12. Crippling/Barbed Spear of Fortitude with a 15^50 Inscription is best, but not REQUIRED Any Req between 9-13. Strength Shield of Fortitude or Endurance with a "Run For Your Life!" or "Sheltered by Faith" inscription. Runes & Insignias: +1 +2 Strength and rest of the slots should be Health. Same goes for insignias, all Health. Ranger [pve Expert Archer;OgETUt7m5hX7YkMMGVzjB2wVAA] This hero build is for Pure Attack spamming and a tiny bit of support. Equipment and runes. Weapon and Shield/off-hand: Any Req between 9-13. Zealous Short bow of Fortitude with a 15^50 Inscription is best, but not REQUIRED No Shield/off-hand Required/Available Runes & Insignias: +1 +2 Expertise & +1 Marksmanship, rest of the slots should be Health. Insignias should all be Radiant. [pve Burning Pain;OgASc5MT6WSGOGMGIGqGPGUg] This builds provides some nice burning and a condition for the Ebon Sin's [Iron palm] Equipment and runes. Weapon and Shield/off-hand: Any Req between 9-13. Zealous Short bow of Fortitude with a 15^50 Inscription is best, but not REQUIRED No Shield/off-hand Required/Available Runes & Insignias: +1 +2 Marksmanship & +1 Expertise, rest of the slots should be Health. Insignias should all be Radiant. [pve When good pets go bad;OgATYt7mZK3ix4xQ1g2Yz4zgCEA] This build Uses the pet as an extra 'attack' the damage of the pet does not matter just the IAS. Equipment and runes. Weapon and Shield/off-hand: Any Req between 9-13. Zealous Short bow of Fortitude with a 15^50 Inscription is best, but not REQUIRED No Shield/off-hand Required/Available Runes & Insignias: +1 +2 Marksmanship & +1 Expertise, rest of the slots should be Health. Insignias should all be Radiant. Assassin [pve I R ASSASSIN!;OwFkUZdsnMuTcGA2/OY6vB4OirA] This build uses the elite for IAS and uses Crippling providing you have a hex on the target. Equipment and runes. Weapon and Shield/off-hand: Any Req between 9-13. Zealous Daggers of Fortitude or Enchanting with a 15^50 or 5e+ Inscription is best, but not REQUIRED No Shield/off-hand Required/Available Runes & Insignias: +1 +1 Critical Strikes & +1 Dagger Mastery, rest of the slots should be Energy. Insignias should all be Health. [pve Voom like a Snail;OwFi0xj8YABgE/Dm+bAiV+JA] This build uses the elite for The double Strike chance to Activate [Mark of pain]. Damage is an issue with this build, But damage is not Required for MoP Nuker to do his job. Equipment and runes. Weapon and Shield/off-hand: Any Req between 9-13. Zealous Daggers of Fortitude or Enchanting with a 15^50 or 5e+ Inscription is best, but not REQUIRED No Shield/off-hand Required/Available Runes & Insignias: +1 +1 Critical Strikes & +1 Dagger Mastery, rest of the slots should be Energy. Insignias should all be Health. [pve Acid-gon;OwljMylpZSxZLiAZmhDZLY6PDQA] The elite Provides the IAS and the build is based around critical hit. This is also easier for melee targets to opt for so they don't have to keep running around as sometimes the target dies before they can get there. Equipment and runes. Weapon and Shield/off-hand: Req 9. Zealous Spear of Fortitude or Enchanting with a 15^50 or 5e+ Inscription is best, but not REQUIRED Any Req between 9 Command Shield of Fortitude or Endurance with a "Run For Your Life!" or "Sheltered by Faith" inscription. Runes & Insignias: +1 +2 Critical Strikes, rest of the slots should be Health. Insignias should all be Health. Dervish [pve Chilling Fate;OgGjkyqJbScbCYDYNXXgkbVX8VA] The elite provides the Constant Crippling to foes adjacent to MoP'd target and the target itself. NOTE: This build does not Active [Mark of pain] Because of [Grenth's fingers] causing cold damage Equipment and runes. Weapon and Shield/off-hand: Any Req between 9-13. Zealous Scythe of Fortitude or Enchanting with a 15^50 or 5e+ Inscription is best, but not REQUIRED No Shield/off-hand Required/Available Runes & Insignias: +1 +1 Scythe Mastery & +1 Wind Prayers, rest of the slots should be Energy. Insignias should all be Health. [pve Fatal Wounding;OgCikysMBgdByc1c9fVeJu9dBA] This build is based on the imbalanced [Wounding Strike] and attack spam. Equipment and runes. Weapon and Shield/off-hand: Any Req between 9-13. Zealous Scythe of Fortitude or Enchanting with a 15^50 or 5e+ Inscription is best, but not REQUIRED No Shield/off-hand Required/Available Runes & Insignias: +1 +1 Scythe Mastery & +1 Mysticism, rest of the slots should be Energy. Insignias should all be Health. [pve Derv-a-gon;OgmkUmn5qyiE4GQmZov4Lm4W213F] This build is based on blind spam. NOTE: This build does not Active [Mark of pain] Because of [Dust Cloak] causing Earth damage. Equipment and runes. Weapon and Shield/off-hand: Any Req 9. Zealous Spear of Fortitude or Enchanting with 5e+ Inscription is best, but not REQUIRED Any Req between 9 Motivation Shield of Fortitude with a "Sheltered by Faith" inscription. Runes & Insignias: +1 +1 Earth Prayers & +1 Mysticism, rest of the slots should be Energy. Insignias should all be Health. Note: Caster & Paragon Heroes should be basic to anyone wanting to use them. In another words I'm not gonna write a list for them. '  Player Builds. I'll post what People used when i ran MoP nuker and what you should ask your Friend to run. If they don't mind that is, otherwise carry on as you were.  Warrior [pve War-a-Gon;OQkiExlM1uNDGD+XBXaYdVIvB] This provides very nice support due to [Save yourselves] and most important is that the warrior does not have to run around all the time, which some warriors hate doing. Equipment and runes. Weapon and Shield/off-hand: Any Req between 9-12. Crippling/Barbed Spear of Fortitude with a 15^50 Inscription is best. Any Req between 9-13. Strength Shield of Fortitude or Endurance with a "Run For Your Life!" or "Sheltered by Faith" inscription. Runes & Insignias: +1 +2 Strength and rest of the slots should be Health. Same goes for insignias, all Health. Ranger [pve Ranger Support;OgESc5MT8awgMGqGOG7iwGxgA] This build is some nice support (for a ranger) and if you don't want to run [Ebon vanguard assassin support] you could take [Finish him] or [Ebon battle standard of honor]. Equipment and runes. Weapon and Shield/off-hand: Any Req between 9-13. Zealous Short bow of Fortitude with a 15^50 Inscription is best. No Shield/off-hand Required/Available Runes & Insignias: +1 +3 Expertise & +1 Marksmanship, rest of the slots should be Health. Insignias should all be Radiant. Assassin [Pve Death Blossom Spammer;OwFi0xjMVm5/cw0wYTGDWDSBB] This also provides support with a decent Crippling and the IAS from this build will light your screen up with [Mark of pain]'s Pretty number. Equipment and runes. Weapon and Shield/off-hand: Any Req between 9-13. Zealous Daggers of Fortitude or Enchanting with a 15^50 or 5e+ Inscription is best. No Shield/off-hand Required/Available Runes & Insignias: +1+1 Dagger Mastery & +1 Critical Strikes , rest of the slots should be Energy. Insignias should all be Health. Dervish [pve Head splinter;OgijImpMbSAYCYniNXXgygYMqiA] This build does deal a nice amount of damage on it's own and [Brawling headbutt] is a nice Knock-down for a [mark of pain] target. Equipment and runes. Weapon and Shield/off-hand: Any Req between 9-13. Zealous Scythe of Fortitude or Enchanting with a 15^50 or 5e+ Inscription is best. No Shield/off-hand Required/Available Runes & Insignias: +1 +1 Scythe Mastery & +1 Mysticism, rest of the slots should be Energy. Insignias should all be Health. Elementalist [pve Ether Prot spam;OgNTw428YikoeQLquR6bVsWgWA] This is by far one of the best prot/healing builds in the game and it also brings the imba [great dwarf weapon] Equipment and runes. Weapon and Shield/off-hand: Any Req between 9-13. Spear of Enchanting with a 5e+ Inscription is best. Any Req between 9-13 Any attribute Shield of Devotion with a "Sheltered by Faith" inscription. Runes & Insignias: 12 +1 +2 Energy Storage, rest of the slots should be Health. Insignias should all be Health. Paragon [pve Imbagon;OQGjUumI6Szg4bVYxgAh5ipbubA] This is the most Imbalanced paragon bars there is for support. Equipment and runes. Weapon and Shield/off-hand: Any Req between 9-13. Spear of Fortitude with a 5e+ Inscription is best. Any Req 9 Command Shield of Fortitude with a "Sheltered by Faith" inscription. Runes & Insignias: 11 +1 +2 Spear mastery, Command 8 +1 & Leadership 11+1 rest of the slots should be Health. Insignias should all be Centurion's. I haven't had the pleasure playing with the other classes to help the damage or support the MoP nuker. That's about it for My "little" MoP Nuker Guide. ~Justi |
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Jan 24, 2009, 09:26 PM // 21:26
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: The Netherlands
Profession: Mo/
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You do realise that people have been running this with the 3 necro discord team?
Anyway nice guide I guess, but this isn't really anything new. I've been running [You Move Like a Dwarf]+ [Finish Him!] + [Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support] + [Mark of Pain] + [Assassins Promise] + [Barbs] + [Enfeebling Blood]. |
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Jan 24, 2009, 09:31 PM // 21:31
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Thanks for post, good reading. Your Imbagon bar has 4 PVE skillz...
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Jan 24, 2009, 09:36 PM // 21:36
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Apr 2005
Profession: N/A
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Jan 24, 2009, 09:56 PM // 21:56
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Apr 2007
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I hate to say it, but, while Moloch's build is awesome, this guide is terrible... I'm not sure if it's worth even trying to itemize the problems with it.
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Jan 24, 2009, 10:48 PM // 22:48
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: ..My home away from home..
Guild: Currently looking ~
Profession: N/
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Good build ~ bad guide
I am very confused (unless I missed it) that there was no/little mention of a MM hero in your list of 'optimal heroes' (minus the hint of 'sabway'). Mop + Barbs + a MM is > Melee heroes with this build, and only uses one hero slot ~ too good to pass up imo. Last edited by Shadow Slave; Jan 24, 2009 at 10:52 PM // 22:52.. |
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Jan 24, 2009, 11:18 PM // 23:18
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2006
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First, the build is old. Second, mark of pain always reminded me of EVSS, you get a few insane moments every once in a while, but mostly it triggers only a couple of times before target dies, decent skill, but nothing special. Third, sry, but the guide is full of mistakes. About half of the optional skills are not even good and many builds are simply weak.
Necro is a great support character with AP, too bad we do not see that from this guide. |
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Jan 25, 2009, 01:53 AM // 01:53
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Jan 25, 2009, 02:06 AM // 02:06
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Sep 2007
Profession: N/
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Jan 25, 2009, 02:18 AM // 02:18
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Jan 25, 2009, 02:37 AM // 02:37
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Nov 2008
Profession: Mo/
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Jan 25, 2009, 03:19 AM // 03:19
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Canada
Profession: E/
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you need anti block because..?
Last time i checked, [Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support] ^Yeah that little guy, pretty sure his chain can't be blocked. |
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Jan 25, 2009, 04:17 AM // 04:17
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Jan 25, 2009, 04:19 AM // 04:19
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Jan 25, 2009, 07:42 AM // 07:42
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Wales
Guild: No longer actively playing.
Profession: N/
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Well you've spotted the obvious, This guide is indeed Well old.
This is why i stated at the start I've been talking to Moloch for "Awhile" and the words I used when I said I was going post it "F**K it I'll post it and watch it get Slated" As I said this is quite old but your all repeating yourself by saying the same thing one after an another.  ~Justi |
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Jan 28, 2009, 11:25 AM // 11:25
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]
Profession: W/Mo
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Jan 28, 2009, 12:08 PM // 12:08
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Likes naked dance offs
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: The Older Gamers [TOG]
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MS/DB Sin + Earthshaker warrior + AP/MoP Nec = best combo. Constant double strikes + aoe knocklock maximises the damage.
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Jan 29, 2009, 01:57 AM // 01:57
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Guild: None
Profession: W/
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Jan 29, 2009, 09:05 AM // 09:05
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Besides MoP target should be selected to be in the middle of the mob, so ranged physical attackers work better or you can use shadow step. Melee physical is not the best option. Last edited by Daesu; Jan 29, 2009 at 09:07 AM // 09:07.. |
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Jan 29, 2009, 09:26 AM // 09:26
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: far far away
Profession: W/
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Elite Stance. (20 seconds.) While wielding daggers, you attack 5...17...20% faster and have +5...29...35% chance to land a critical hit. As someone said, MoP build is good, but this guide needs to be improved. |
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